And that made me think... the implication is that finding someplace to express your negative emotions in a safe space and get reassurance in return can take the place of religion in the life of someone whose thinking is more secular, so... Kitcher is saying that I go to therapy instead of going to church?
I'm not sure how I feel about that. On the one hand, I certainly feel better leaving therapy, the same way I feel better when one of my friends lets me rant to them, the same way I felt better after going in to talk to Chris every week last semester, the way I sometimes used to feel after leaving church. On the other hand, is this why I search for trancendental experiences by using drugs? Because I know I'm never going to have that trancendental experience through prayer and worship again, and I need something like that in my life periodically?
Is it really enough for me to be a secular humanist or do I need some sort of spirituality in my life? Isn't my resolve to be a good person just as well supported by Jesus' teachings and parables without believing in a virgin birth or a miraculous resurrection? Isn't it better for me to take my examples of how to live from a range of sources instead of one book I haven't believed since I was 14? What have I really learned about the universe and myself in the past eleven years, anyway?
....so yeah, that happened, and it irritates me that I can't just grab one of my friends and have a conversation about it when half of them were supposed to have read at least the first part of the book and none of them actually did. And the one I've actually had some sort of logical lead-in to this kind of conversation with is the one I really should by no means be spending time with alone, because every single time I'm alone with him my chest aches with how badly I want to get closer to him, and I'm just a pathetic creeper about him even if I hide it well.
sigh
- Mood:
contemplative
- Music:Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Zero
Comments
I can't quite agree with this. Not only does North American culture have plenty of secular community pillars (though, admittedly, different ones than in Europe), but Europe's population is centred around the church as much as anywhere. I really don't see a void in North American communities that leaves people with nowhere to gather but the church, and I don't see European communities eschewing the church specifically.
Is it really enough for me to be a secular humanist or do I need some sort of spirituality in my life?
Secular humanism is a type of spirituality. Modern belief systems can seem different from traditional religions at first glance, but they hold most of the same elements. The major exception to this is usually the hero/saviour figure, which is often what makes people think of things like humanism differently--you're not following the teachings of a holy being or worshipping a pantheon--but the function and even most of the structure of the philosophy is the same.
Faith comes from believing that you're living your life right, even though that's unknowable. Whether you believe that because a devine being told you how to live your life or because you're following a philosophy that you like doesn't matter. Transcendence is just a way of thinking.
Humans are pretty odd in that we're both solitary and social creatures, where by and large most people value their own space but want to at least have the option of fitting in somewhere else, whether that's physically (by hanging out with friends/going to clubs) or in spirit (by finding something - not necessarily religion, fandom material can be just as valid in this case - that makes you think "Yes, this is for me, I'm not the only one who thinks/likes that").
I don't think you have to entirely reject all aspects of religion to be an atheist, anymore than someone religious has to reject all aspects of science, anymore than either side should have to give up the right to question their own beliefs from time to time. If you believe Jesus was a divine figure sent by God to guide us, then fair enough, that's one reason to follow in his footsteps. Equally, if you think Jesus was just a guy, but a pretty decent guy, then that's equally valid a reason for following in his footsteps. Some people over history have had both good ideas and terrible ideas, and the latter doesn't cancel out the validity of the former.
It's all about finding out what's right for you personally; I'm happiest when I have a good balance between work, family and friends while still having the majority of my free time to myself. It's where I'm happiest, because I get overloaded with too much sensory data if I'm around other people constantly, but it doesn't change the fact that I love them - I just need enough time to myself to be able to love them without resenting the lack of free time when I'm around them. My sister, on the other hand, is extremely sociable and gets angry and upset when she doesn't have people to talk to the majority of the time. Her happy balance is just as valid as mine, but completely different to mine.
People like to try and put everything into scales and classifications, but it's a lot easier to make sense of the world once you start to realise that while yes, people do often seek similar things, the ways in which they seek them and the intensity with which they seek them can vary from person to person, culture to culture, and no one way should really be called "right" or "wrong" unless someone gets hurt through it.
*huge hugs*
Hope you get to have a natter with someone about it in real life soon <3.
I don't think anyone needs spirituality--not literally, at least. I think all of us need something to marvel at and to awe us, but far better it be something real than insubstantial. For instance the thing that gives me that "transcendental" feeling is science: how much we've managed to do and how far we still have to go. Vague spiritual feelings could never compare to the real facts of the universe in that respect. If drugs do that for you, well, then, at least that's chemistry and not a cop out.